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Old April 7th, 2009, 03:34 AM
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Flatulence issue and overall progress dilemma

Well basically I am wondering if it is possible to eat too many vegetables. I am suffering from pretty bad gas at the moment and I think my husband will kick me out of the house if I don't manage to sort it out . I generally work out my portion sizes based on the size of my tupperware lunch boxes. I'd get about three portions from a cauliflower. Is that too much? I am 5 foot 2" and 26% bodyfat.

Other than that I am a bit stuck really. I know for a fact that I need to increase my protein as I'm really only getting quality protein at two meals. I am a vegetarian but will take protein powder. I had been having a scoop at breakfast and tofu/quorn for dinner. I will add a shake to my 3 other meals. Basically I have been relying on just the veg at the other meals. Progress had been very good when nI initially started eating like this a year ago but I have not progressed in ages.

I train very hard. I do 5 75 to 90 mins sessions of olympic lifting each week plus 5 interval sprint sessions. These range between 12 and 16 minutes and would be very intense. Heart rate would hit anywhere from 170 to 201 on work parts of intervals. I would definitely hit the intensity levels of those Amanda Graydon videos. I'd also add a pilates session each week.

I hadn't been adding any carbs post workout to try and encourage fat loss but recently I've been adding quinoa or amaranth as I was worried that overall calories were too low.

Overall typical day is as follows

Interval training (one of the below variations) 7.30am
30s on/ 30s off
1 min on /1 min off
2 min on /1 min off

Breakfast 8am
2 fish oil capsules (Flameout)
1 teaspoon glycine
1 teaspoon glutamine
1 scoop oats
1 scoop protein powder
1 teaspoon manuka honey

Snack 11.30am
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other

1 hour 15 mins to one and a half hours Olympic Lifting

Lunch 3pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 cup quinoa or amaranth
1 125g yogurt

Snack 6pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 handful cashew nuts

Dinner 9.30pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
Quorn/Tofu
1 apple
1 handful cashew nuts

Before bed
2 Capsules Flameout
2 ZMA

Any advice at all would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:07 AM
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Well basically I am wondering if it is possible to eat too many vegetables. I am suffering from pretty bad gas at the moment and I think my husband will kick me out of the house if I don't manage to sort it out . I generally work out my portion sizes based on the size of my tupperware lunch boxes. I'd get about three portions from a cauliflower. Is that too much? I am 5 foot 2" and 26% bodyfat.

Other than that I am a bit stuck really. I know for a fact that I need to increase my protein as I'm really only getting quality protein at two meals. I am a vegetarian but will take protein powder. I had been having a scoop at breakfast and tofu/quorn for dinner. I will add a shake to my 3 other meals. Basically I have been relying on just the veg at the other meals. Progress had been very good when nI initially started eating like this a year ago but I have not progressed in ages.

I train very hard. I do 5 75 to 90 mins sessions of olympic lifting each week plus 5 interval sprint sessions. These range between 12 and 16 minutes and would be very intense. Heart rate would hit anywhere from 170 to 201 on work parts of intervals. I would definitely hit the intensity levels of those Amanda Graydon videos. I'd also add a pilates session each week.

I hadn't been adding any carbs post workout to try and encourage fat loss but recently I've been adding quinoa or amaranth as I was worried that overall calories were too low.

Overall typical day is as follows

Interval training (one of the below variations) 7.30am
30s on/ 30s off
1 min on /1 min off
2 min on /1 min off

Breakfast 8am
2 fish oil capsules (Flameout)
1 teaspoon glycine
1 teaspoon glutamine
1 scoop oats
1 scoop protein powder
1 teaspoon manuka honey

Snack 11.30am
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other

1 hour 15 mins to one and a half hours Olympic Lifting

Lunch 3pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 cup quinoa or amaranth
1 125g yogurt

Snack 6pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 handful cashew nuts

Dinner 9.30pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
Quorn/Tofu
1 apple
1 handful cashew nuts

Before bed
2 Capsules Flameout
2 ZMA

Any advice at all would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
Thanks for posting.

First off, do you notice any differences in digestion/bloating based on:

  • Cooked vs. raw veggies?
  • Different types of beans (e.g., lentils vs. pintos)?
  • Size of the meal?
  • Type of protein powder?

Tweaking those can greatly help.

About progress, do you happen to own PN V3.0? It gives some excellent highlights on plant-based eating for optimal body composition and how you can modify your plan if no results are noticed.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 12:44 PM
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Hi Ryan,

Thanks a lot for getting back to me. I always eat my vegetables cooked so I don't think that is the problem. I don't eat that many beans, peas etc as I am worried about how much carbs are in them. I limit root veg for the same reason. I have changed my protein powder recently so maybe that could be a factor alright. We can't get protein powder from the US imported into Ireland anymore so I have to get it from the UK. I used to use Metabolic Drive which was whey and casein and the new one is just whey so I guess that could be a factor.

I do think that the size of the meal could be the main problem. My veg portions do seem quite large so maybe it is just too much for my body to process. I have started taking slippery elm and acidophilus to see if that will help.

I'm afraid I only have a copy of PN 2. That info about plan tweaking sounds interesting. I'll have to save up to go shopping!
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Old April 7th, 2009, 02:16 PM
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Here is a picture of my typical meal sizes. Do they look massive?

Any feedback on my overall daily intake vs training would also be appreciated...
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Old April 7th, 2009, 02:26 PM
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Well basically I am wondering if it is possible to eat too many vegetables. I am suffering from pretty bad gas at the moment and I think my husband will kick me out of the house if I don't manage to sort it out . I generally work out my portion sizes based on the size of my tupperware lunch boxes. I'd get about three portions from a cauliflower. Is that too much? I am 5 foot 2" and 26% bodyfat.

Other than that I am a bit stuck really. I know for a fact that I need to increase my protein as I'm really only getting quality protein at two meals. I am a vegetarian but will take protein powder. I had been having a scoop at breakfast and tofu/quorn for dinner. I will add a shake to my 3 other meals. Basically I have been relying on just the veg at the other meals. Progress had been very good when nI initially started eating like this a year ago but I have not progressed in ages.

I train very hard. I do 5 75 to 90 mins sessions of olympic lifting each week plus 5 interval sprint sessions. These range between 12 and 16 minutes and would be very intense. Heart rate would hit anywhere from 170 to 201 on work parts of intervals. I would definitely hit the intensity levels of those Amanda Graydon videos. I'd also add a pilates session each week.

I hadn't been adding any carbs post workout to try and encourage fat loss but recently I've been adding quinoa or amaranth as I was worried that overall calories were too low.

Overall typical day is as follows

Interval training (one of the below variations) 7.30am
30s on/ 30s off
1 min on /1 min off
2 min on /1 min off

Breakfast 8am
2 fish oil capsules (Flameout)
1 teaspoon glycine
1 teaspoon glutamine
1 scoop oats
1 scoop protein powder
1 teaspoon manuka honey

Snack 11.30am
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other

1 hour 15 mins to one and a half hours Olympic Lifting

Lunch 3pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 cup quinoa or amaranth
1 125g yogurt

Snack 6pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
1 handful cashew nuts

Dinner 9.30pm
Tupperware lunch box of veg e.g. cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, leeks or other
Quorn/Tofu
1 apple
1 handful cashew nuts

Before bed
2 Capsules Flameout
2 ZMA

Any advice at all would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Perhaps adding some Beano prior to all those veggies might help.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM
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Here is a picture of my typical meal sizes. Do they look massive?

Any feedback on my overall daily intake vs training would also be appreciated...
Well - everyone is different.

How do you feel after eating? On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being famished/empty and 10 being stuffed/full - how do you feel?
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Old April 7th, 2009, 06:11 PM
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Thanks for the Beano tip. I just looked it up-hadn't heard of it before but its worth a try I guess.

Ryan in terms of fullness I'd say I hit about a 7 or 8 on the scale.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 05:07 PM
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Thanks for the Beano tip. I just looked it up-hadn't heard of it before but its worth a try I guess.

Ryan in terms of fullness I'd say I hit about a 7 or 8 on the scale.
Maybe getting closer to the 6 or 7 mark would help. Let us know what you try.
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